In a message dated 1/25/2005 11:47:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes: the crowd is clapping for or against any of the dogs. It is the excitement of the competition that everyone is drawn in by. It is also that which drew most people to the show in the first place, and it is what will bring them back next year. Tom Langlitz for many man years we have experienced silence when the best dog but not the popular dog goes around the ring.i attribute it to the thoughts of these people thinking they have the power to influence the judge no matter whets in there, jealousy of not breeding the better dog and just plain old ignorance.if a judge makes a decision because of the silence and chooses the crowds opinion it only shows his or hers ignorance and disrespect to those showing good dogs under this judge..you need to not show under this judge again. people should not get too emotional over ignorant judges. my motto is get even.be quiet,be patient and keep on plugging.laugh it off and make a better decision the next time.think of it as an education. i remember at an all breed show showing bitches.it was only a 2 pt show and not allot of spectators around the ring in dogs.all of a sudden there was allot of people by the ring from other breeds congregating..there was this bitch that needed 2pts to finish.we had the clear winner and the judge knew it.when the bitch went around there was a deafening noise of clapping,whistling etc.i did all i could but couldn't hold back and started laughing out loud.it was too funny.our bitch did her thing ,a few clapped but i didn't stop laughing.the bitch won we got the reserve and i was still laughing.the bitch wasn't a good one and evidently was the judge either.the bad thing about it all it gets a ch. title and gets bred to another slug.thats whets sad about it all.we have top dogs making these producing lists because of these slugs its a shame.Our clubs constitution states we are together for "the betterment of the breed" not a handler.breeder or a owner with too much money to spend. our breed is popular because of the dog not one handler or his rich owners.he's there because of the cash he's withdrawing from these people .Those that think differently need to wake up. tom ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================