Sheila, Do you think it makes any difference when they sell the gas. What difference does it make?? I could never figure that one out. I always thought environmentalist worked for the oil companies. Why sell 30 gallons of gas for 30 dollars when yon can sell 10 gallons for 30 dollars. Less cost to produce the 10 gallons much more profit. If I knew I could sell my gas on Monday then I would close my doors on Tuesday and save the overhead. I would then go fishing on Tuesday. Terry sheila lieberman <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Because life does what it does, I will go to National's I can get to in a day's drive. From Miami that is very limiting. So be it. The show should travel around the country so that it is easier for some than it is for others and spread the effort over the course of several years. Now I recall a very specific question about this with elections a few years back. The decision was to have a traveling National. That is what we the membership voted for, and that is what we are getting. No, I won't be in Colorado, or Texas. They were being considered when I thought I had 2 dogs that would be competitive. Now that that is not the case, I will not consider 2 and 3 or more days of driving for any dog show at all. I have no reason to. If I had dogs to show, I doubt I would go to the west coast, but I would go a long way. Things being what they are, I see no reason to stress myself or my money. This does not make for a good family vacation for me, my kids are in high school, and cannot miss school at this point. My husband fears being away from his job for more than a few days at a time. And when he does leave he ends up sleeping with his blackberry on his ear. Not fun. So, I feel the National should move around, and let the chips fall as they may. The price of gas and hotels will do damage no matter what. Speaking of gas!!! TOMORROW IS THE BOYCOTTE DAY FOR GAS. GET YOUR GAS TODAY, AND NOT TOMORROW. LET THE OIL COMPANIES KNOW WE DO NOT WANT TO PAY $3 AND MORE A GALLON. sheila Terry Cochran wrote: The attitude for many years is that the people from the west coast are much more willing to travel than the folks from the east so we get to pay the extra cost and take the extra chances of traveling with our dogs. I know the people from the west are getting tried of being asked to come on over anyway you can. Many of the people from the east coast made it clear that they would make no attempt to come to the Oregon national and they didn't. Maybe the folks on the west coast should learn a lesson from the east coast folks. Don't travel and they will bring the national to you. It seems to work for the east coast crowd. Terry Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 5/12/2007 8:45:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx writes: so i don't know if we have it defined anywhere what states fit into which regions. if we do, i'd like to know where the definition can be found. The following is where all the nationals have been since 1970....... consider mid as central as per the most recent maps. 1970 - Denver, Co Mid 1971 - Detroit, MI Mid 1972 - Atlanta, GA (Stone Mtn) East 1973 - Seattle, WA West 1974 - Dallas, TX Mid 1975 - Louisville, KY Mid 1976 - Niagara Falls, NY East 1977 - Anaheim, CA West 1978 - Kansas City, MO Mid 1979 - Niagara Falls, NY East 1980 - Cincinnati, OH Mid 1981 - Tulsa, OK Mid 1982 - Cleveland, OH Mid 1983 - Philadelphia, PA East 1984 - Tempe, AZ West 1985 - St. Louis, MO Mid 1986 - Atlanta, GA East 1987 - Burbank, CA West 1988 - Houston, TX Mid 1989 - Philadelphia, PA East 1990 - Anaheim, CA West 1991 - Houston, TX Mid 1992 - Perry, GA East 1993 - Scottsdale, AZ West 1994 - Perry, GA East 1995 - Burbank, CA West 1996 - Lexington, KY Mid 1997 - Perry GA East 1998 - Perry, GA East 1999 - Del Mar, CA West 2000 - Columbus, OH Mid 2001 - Perry, GA East 2002 - Lake St. Louis, MO Mid 2003 - Daytona Beach, Fl East 2004 - Albany, OR West 2005 - Concord, NC East 2006 - Lake St. Louis, MO Mid 2007 - Ft. Collins, CO Mid (west???) 2008 - Beaumont, TX Mid 2009 - Springfield, Oh Mid (but being called east) It would appear we are really short on west nationals with only 9 out of 40 being in that zone so Evan's message indicating we need to go west seems very warranted. 18 were or will be held in the middle or central area, 13 in the east. Ft Collins being clearly east of the great divide should be a mid zone. It appears there was a "relaxed" pattern for many for several years of mid, mid east then west, slightly broken up but not clearly defined. The survey in 2004 by the board indicated the choice of east, central, west, central and got the most votes. It seems like a fair assessment. The survey and its maps were also moved and adopted by the board, so I think they need to look at the pattern of adoption and the division of zones. In 40 years there has only been 1 national in Florida, and they have the 3rd I believe highest membership state. 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