All I am saying is that the point system it's self tell us what we need to know. Cal and AZ have the highest dog requirement for a 3 point major 12 dogs and 13 bitches. If they are all adults and the entry fee is 30.00 that is an income of 750.00 to host a show. 750.00 dollars does not a dog show make. Oregon is going to the All Breed show in July this year. We will see how it goes. Terry ________________________________ From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx; LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx; destinogs1@xxxxxxx; pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:29 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new point schedules have been posted... Well we just spent the weekend at some specialty shows.......and the total dog quality is EXCELLENT at the Specialties and the entry was fine. . I do not understand why some of you keep saying this Breed MUST go to All Breed shows to survive?? If there are less dogs at a Specialty.....there are even LESS dogs at an All Breed. I don't understand the reasoning?? There may be less dogs than there used to be.........but the Specialty Shows will always be what is important to any Breed. There just simply is less Exhibitors and Breeders now. Granted airline fees and traveling expenses are out of sight.....and that should cause Specialty Clubs to consider more shows in less days with the numbers down. Airline fees will affect who Clubs can get for judges more than anything, and in the end that could affect our Specialty shows. People will drive a good distance with their dogs for a combination of great judges....great sites. with good sized rings....convenient to Motels, Restaurants, good show grounds, water, power, shade...etc. We must cater to the Exhibitors and their dogs with convenience...as traveling will only become more difficult and expensive.....and our aging exhibitors and lack of handlers. The camaraderie at a Specialty far outweighs an All Breed show. Sitting around visiting, eating, watching puppies and young dogs while visiting and talking dogs is irreplaceable. When we give up Specialties .......our Breed will suffer. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Cochran To: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx ; destinogs1@xxxxxxx ; pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new point schedules have been posted... We are seeing the Last days of the Specialty shows that is for sure. 18 total dog entry will mean that if the clubs are to survive they will go to the all breeds If the all breed clubs are willing to pay the expenses for the judges they will be doing the picking. If I were a GSD judge I would be trying to get at least a total group under my belt. It looks like we better start making a list of our favorite all breed judges. Free stacking is about to make a come back. So lets start a list. Your favorite All breed judges are?? Specialty judges that can judge a group are? Terry ________________________________ From: "LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx" <LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx> To: destinogs1@xxxxxxx; pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new point schedules have been posted... Our division is 8 and 8. There will be a lot of poor quality champions. Not to mention that a major entry will not come close to paying the expenses to put on a show. Airfares alone to get a judge in is out of sight. I have been checking airfares for a trip to Southern California and so far the cheapest I am finding is close to 700.00 bucks. Yikes. Lee Brown destinogs1@xxxxxxx writes: I just checked Div. 4 and majors and championships just aren't what they were. 9 dogs/bitches for a 3pt. major? What a shame. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] new point schedules have been posted... effective May 16, 2012 ttp://www.showdays.info/pointcnt.php?code=Index&yr12&brnr6 Peggy ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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