Three of the Hooligans have bloated w/torsion, all three survived the surgery. Each dog had completely different symptoms except for the white foam vomiting (I'm paranoid about white foam vomiting, they go to the vet or ER when they start this type of vomiting - it's served me well over the years, 1 was a false alarm, the rest were major life threatening problems). Echo was 9 when he bloated in 1993. He had sucessful surgery with an uncomplicated recovery. He died a month before his 10th birthday from hemangiosarcoma of the heart (I didn't even know he was sick until the day he died). JR survived mesenteric torsion when he was 8. Fourteen months later, in 1999, he survived bloat and also had an uneventful recovery period. He lived to celebrate his 13th birthday. In 1994, when Kelly was 9-1/2, he bloated on an empty stomach. Like the other two, he had an uneventful recovery. He died this past July at the age of 12-1/2 to unrelated health issues. Gayle & the Hooligans! http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uidB94023 - Link to The Hooligans Albums -- Sandra Kozub <skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Every bloat that I have had was with an OLD dog - and three of the four had recently had abdominal surgery shortly before. I elected surgery with them & all but one survived. In each case, they seemed to be pain free after shortly after surgery. Sandy Sandra Kozub KcK Kennels http://iweb.tntech.edu/rkozub/kennel.htm ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ===========================================================================____________________________________________________________ Get educated. Click here for Adult Education programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6rx9fZNwsX3FCVBL5kz7dkIqghRTr64OJdIzjEyUugYdp8w0ou/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================