Let me explain from personal experience - if you have never actually trained and trialed at a higher level you do may not have a good understanding of what is really required. I mean you personally getting out there. I would not expect someone who spends their entire time in agility, for instance, and does not ever compete in conformation to understand the ins and outs of campaigning a conformation dog. I know anyone can sign a check and have a handler find, train and finish a dog, but I mean actually picking, training, conditioning and grooming a dog to be competitive. If you have never done that, you will have a harder time understanding why certain things are necessary to make a well run show/trial. The same is true if you have never actually competed in agility or herding or SchH or whatever. There is nothing like the experience earned by doing. Why higher classes? Compare the experience you get taking one puppy into a small show's 6-9 class vs competing in Breed at the national. Someone who has managed to squeek through an HT does not have the same understanding as someone who has earned an HX. Ditto for RN vs UD. I am not negating the entry levels, but they are only a start. Just like 6-9 is the first step on the road of learning conformation showing. I know we have at least 3 board members who have trained to high titles. And when Lori was on the board we had someone who owner handled in just about everything including finishing her dogs from Bred By. Hope that makes my meaning clear. Ruth ________________________________ From: "BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx" <BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 4:32:08 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: current BOD In a message dated 7/22/10 9:40:38 PM, rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx writes: > Other than Helen, does anyone actually work their own dogs in anything > other > than an entry level? > Ruth > > > I don't understand your question. Why would anyone who works their own dogs at any stage make a difference? Everyone has to start somewhere and usually that's at the entry level. Some people reading your post may misconstrue it as elitist, a perception that we, as a club, are unfortunately accused of at times. Regards, Pat ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================