I don't agree. I think he is voicing the things we have seen and have an issue with. The honest judges who read his post will think, "I have seen that too and don't want to be that judge" The others don't care what people think. Ed was quite frank when he stated an honest judge isn't just the one who puts his dog up. He was talking about the bigger picture. If these things never happened, nobody would think to talk about them. That isn't lumping all judges into the same category. This is reality. Laura Thomas http://www.treasureranchgsds.com/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================