Ed, thank you for the entertaining post and subsequent responses! The hierarchy of this breed can turn the other way all they want, but "perceptions" have always carried more weight then facts. To put anyone on the spot to NAME a dishonest judge would accomplish nothing. Denials, support from other judges, and comments that you mentioned will surely follow. The intent is to make that person feel as uncomfortable as possible and hope that they won't gain support and momentum to drive change. It will blow over until the very next show,,,, As Jack Nicholson would have said if he were a GSD exhibitor, "This list can't handle the truth!" Frank Jemiola ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================