>>>> (Ileana) >>>>Ok Amy, let me try and address these issues one by one.... I had some email replies that state clubs are folding for spiteful reasons,,,,so i'm not going to debate that......... >>>Ok, we wont debate that, I am sure every club has their own situations going on. What I am saying is that a club can be inactive in hopes that new people will come along and rejuvenate it. I see no purpose in permanently folding a club. >>>>Ok, so for the sake of argument, how long should a club hold on to hope? One year, two, three, ten? Forever??? Thats just me................But then Ii believe there is a future, there are many that think the future is dying and will be dead.........i refuse to think that. >>>>There is a future, of course. It is only that the future may come with changes. That the way we have done things has to change. I may be wrong in my thinking but it's so final and drastic a measure when i seriously doubt it's called for. Unless a club is in legal trouble or something. >>>>How about when a club is out of people? That is a measure that cant be ignored. Then that would be a different story. A lot of these clubs have been around for years and years........seen generations of people, good times and bad. >>>>I believe we just need to adapt to what we have to deal with now. People's priorities and interest and commitments have changed. And these changes are affecting the clubs. Why are we so narrow minded to think it all stops here with us? >>>>I also believe we cant be narrow minded and need to at least consider that this is a problem that is not going away, no matter how much we want it to. Why? Because we need more people involved at a local level. Because we are seeing tough times doesn't mean things could never get better..............i wonder what people of the depression and recession times thought ? >>>>Some of them jumped out of windows. Many of them had losses. Most had to start over. Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================