I have heard this statement from more people than I can count. "That dog could finish at an all breed show" or "That dog isn't a specialty type". I've only been in conformation for 4 years but that is one thing I have never understood. In my opinion they should be the same dog capable of winning in either ring if they are bred to the standard. I have a male that I showed in both all breed and specialty. I have a bitch that I try to only show in outdoor shows regardless if they are all breed or specialty. She doesn't like the mats indoors. A member of our club has drafted a letter to send to the all breed kennel clubs in our area explaining why we like bigger rings and why we like outdoor rings and asking them to consider that when planning this coming years shows. We'll see if they take it to heart! Dee Lauffer ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================