[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White GSD.....Awards

  • From: Karen M. Carloni <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: AA GSD List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:21:43 -0500

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC),
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: 

>either the possibility exists for two non-white pure bred GSDs 
>to produce a white dog, or they can't....and since the possibility 
>clears exists.....

I was trying to be wise, but I am clearly not, so...  ;)

The only thing I've been trying to point out is that
"white" is not merely a color in this breed. What appears
to be a color is something completely different that is
carried separately and apart from all other genes.
Everyone seems to be saying that the DNA makeup is the
same for a white and a non-white GSD, but it is not. The
gene that actually makes a GSD appear to be a white dog is
something that is unique *only* to those dogs who possess
a full complement of both masking genes and who display
the white phenotype. In essence, an apparently
white-colored GSD can be a GSD, but a regular colored GSD
cannot be a white... not because it simply isn't white,
but because it is missing an essential part of the "white"
dog's genetic makeup.

>then the white puppies can be nothing other than German Shepherds

The white puppies can be anything GSDCA and AKC say they
are. There are soooo many cases where one breed has split
into two (or more) and there was no mixed breeding going
on. I'll give the one example that's near and dear to my
heart. Once upon a time in this country, there was only
one cocker spaniel breed until Mrs. Dodge thought
otherwise. She pretty much did all the legwork necessary
to separate out the "English" cocker types and turn them
into the separate breed we have today. Most recently, this
was done with the "miniature" Australian shepherds. It has
to come from the parent club first. If the GSDCA decides
that all oversized, longhaired GSDs should be separated
out and called American Flugal Hounds, you can bet AKC
would be setting up the new breed in the FSS tomorrow. If
they leave on their own, you can call them Shilohs.  ;)

Look. Why not bring this issue to a full vote of the
membership once and for all? What's everyone afraid of?
What do we have to do to get this going, because I'm tired
of hearing about it. Once upon a time, all the white GSD
people were of one mind: they wanted back into the breed
and the DQ pulled. But that solution is just not possible
now. The Berger Blanc Suisse is here. It's a worldwide,
fully (not provisionally)  FCI-recognized breed. People,
from those alive right now to those in years to come, will
want to import them and develop the breed here in peace
without having their dogs forcibly added to your GSD gene
pool. All the GSDCA awards in the world won't change that.
--
Karen C.
Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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