[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White GSD.....Awards

  • From: Mary Stacey <mary_e_stacey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>, <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:51:20 +0000

Good Morning All,
I think it is fantastic that the BOD are allowing the white coated GSD to 
compete in performance, what a huge step!  I think a lot of us forget the 
history of our beloved breed, and also forget at one point in time white coated 
GSD's were fully accepted in the breed.  I also find it amazing that we 
continue to follow the stereotype of what stemmed from a preference that Nazi 
Germany put in place back in the 30's, and was later followed suit here in the 
states in the 50's.
"The Nazis, including Hitler, saw the white coat as an undesirable trait, and 
further assumed that the white coated dogs' genes paled the darker coated dogs' 
colors. With little knowledge of science, they blamed the whites for many 
diseases as well. Germany soon barred white German Shepherds from the 
conformation ring and the breeding pool. The United States followed suit in the 
late fifties, early sixties. (The exact date is unknown due to lack of finding 
correct historical documents) While Shepherd enthusiasts in the USA wanted to 
remove them also from the breeding pool, the AKC refused to withhold them from 
registration. Hence, the color white is in the top number of colors of GSD's 
registered with the AKC today! History provides us with the factual information 
that the White German Shepherd was an important aspect in the founding of the 
German Shepherd breed. History also shows us when and where the discrimination 
came from. During the time the white coat color was banned, science was lacking 
the information that we have today, and many false theories (although stated as 
facts!) were given to the white coat of a German Shepherd. Breeders thought 
that the white coat caused dark shepherd�s coat to pale into an undesirable 
light color. (Remember their focus was on beauty in a large way...) They also 
thought that the white coat was a sign of albinism or disease. Today, science 
and breeding history has proven that the white recessive gene masks the actual 
color of the dog, making them appear white, and brings along no health 
problems: in other words, the gene which causes white does not itself cause any 
other defect. They are otherwise genetically identical to colored German 
Shepherds."
I have a female out of a white factored AKC champion, and have a male that is 
white factored.  So, are we saying white coated dogs are not worthy in being 
bred to?  That they have nothing to offer the breed as a whole?  
I'm personally proud of my dogs, there heritage and accomplishments.
I show in both performance and conformation, and believe in the all around GSD. 
 Let's work together to continue to love our breed, and honor our breed for the 
right reasons, understanding we all have a difference in opinion...and it's 
just that, an opinion.
Take care!




> From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:25:37 -0500
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White GSD.....Awards
> To: ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx
> CC: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> No...they can be a fantastic dog Penny and the AKC will recognize them, but 
>  a dog with a disqualifying fault is NOT a good GSD and the PC should NOT  
> recognize them.
>  
> Remember, this is for ALL disqualifying faults....
>  
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)   
> 
>  
> In a message dated 2/7/2012 10:29:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
> Evan is  right--YAY for our Board for recognizing performance  
> capabilities in  ALL COLORS.
> 
> Penny in NC
> The Farm Dog
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2012, at  10:07 PM, Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm wrote:
> 
> > You are so  right the color white was not always a disqualifying  
> >  fault...
> >
> >  http://morrisandessex.com/Cap%20Story%20Page%201.htm
> >
> >  Theresa
> >
> > On Tue, 2/7/12, ELG440@xxxxxxx <ELG440@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
> >
> > It had become, (it wasn't always so), a disqualifying  fault in the
> > conformation ring.   No one every made it a  disqualifying fault in   
> > obedience.
> >
> > I  applaud our board that listened to a group of our members who have
> >  dedicated themselves to a part of OUR BREED!
> >
> > The capitals are  not a mistake.
> >
> >
> > Evan L.   Ginsburg
> 
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