Karen!...lol.....your argument violates the "orange juice' fallacy ......lets say I have and AKC registered orange.......the seeds inside can produce nothing other than oranges....can't get grapes, sunflowers, or coconuts........because a tree is judged by the fruit it bares......now say I have two AKC German Shepherds ( for the record I have 5..lol)....now I breed one of my males with one of my females.......oh no!...I get a WHITE dog.....check mate!......it's a WHITE German Shepherd...Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen M. Carloni" <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "AA GSD List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 12:57:08 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White GSD.....Awards On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:24:36 -0500, Penny & Bill <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >The bottom line is that right now, in 2012, white GSDs are just that-- >German Shepherd Dogs--with the same DNA of any other GSDs. I could argue that the above is not quite true. If we agree that white is not merely a "color" but a masking gene that performs a definite, unique function, and if we can agree that a normally colored GSD is not white, then we must conclude that the white GSD *is* genetically different from the GSD *because* it possesses a genetic trait which no normally colored GSD can exhibit: the masking gene. And while it is true that normally colored dogs can inherit and pass the masking gene along, unless a GSD has both copies of the gene, it can never be white. -- Karen C. Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================