After cleaning pens, kennels, exercising Holly, taking care of pregnant mothers, etc at noon time I took a break when a friend of mine came by for a lengthily chat. We discussed German Shepherds(as usual) and hashed over German Lines and American Lines. Please correct me if I am wrong but don't the German Lines cull their puppies after several puppies test? Do they also have a X-ray of hips before being showed? Well It seems to me the only way to correct our big problem of dysphasia is to have all show dogs tested or pre-lima before a German shepherd goes in the ring. A puppy up to 2 years could be pre limb and after two could be OFA. This would stop people from breeding a poor hip stud dog .There are two many people that just don't know what these breeders are trying to hide or maybe the breeder doesn't know about certain dogs in a pedigree? If all stud dogs had to have an OFA certification then this would certainly help .I would like to see all show dogs and Bitches be OFA as part of the regulations of Showing. We probably all know of Sel Champions and just Champions that are dynastic and have done unspeakable damage to our Breed by reproducing. I admit when I started years ago, I didn't know what I do now and am still learning. My goal is to get an OFA excellent If I can live that long. Ha Pam Swanson Chantilly Shepherds Home of Ch. Chantilly s Holiday Compadre( Holly) Winner's Bitch at 2004 National ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================