In a message dated 12/4/2005 4:33:19 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, stormygsd@xxxxxxx writes: why pick on just hips? What about elbows? Thyroid? heart? how would we show puppies? x-rays at 6 months aren't always conclusive of anything. It's a step in the right direction. Pre Limb's are not always conclusive but you certainly have a better chance of knowing what you will end up with. Elbows are just as important. Heart,etc also. I still would like to see all stud dogs be OFA before entering in the ring. I would like to discuss some positive ways we could get this to come about, even if it takes my life time to see some progress here. Pam Swanson Chantilly Shepherds Home of Ch. Chantilly s Holiday Compadre( Holly) Winner's Bitch at 2004 National ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================