In a message dated 12/14/2006 11:29:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx writes: Well I sure don't get it.....I've seen Kathy's hard-to-pronounce -and -spell dog and in no way does it remotely resemble a Boston Terrier or a Mastiff either.....could someone 'splain it to me? Jamie The Ovtcharkas may be descended from Tibetan Mastiffs and many believe wolves (aren't they all?) the exact origin is unclear. But with the skull type, and the large broad muzzles and zygomatic arches , powerful build, you can bet there is a mastiff of some type back there somewhere. Kathy Victory....There's Something in a Name WEBSITE UPDATED: DEC 14, 2006 _Victory German Shepherds_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/index.htm) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================