LMAO.. You think they have problems with judges measuring against the leg? You should see how some judges manage the wicket - I have had dogs measured at the tops of the shoulders, the bottoms of the shoulders, a 23" dog that was measured out of the standard and disqualified, a dog who was measured at the mid point on his neck, a judge who didn't believe me when I told him I wanted a dog remeasured on a hard, flat surface, etc. They also measure dals against the leg and it really irritates the heck out of me.. Just measure my dog with a wicket - at least I have a fighting chance there.. Jess Mac Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & the Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC) Member of DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================