[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sign only if you must
- From: "" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Kathaleen Strong" <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, triplea7@xxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, TishWalker5@xxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:04:45 -0500
I WOULD sign this! I am also in agreement with Kathaleen's point that some
who are proposing more "teeth" in the Code are not breeders, but buyers and
backers of dogs. Easy to say what you think should be done, when your not
doing it! Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> Dear Mr. Amoroso:
>
> Having gone and read the Colonial Rottweiler Club's Code of Ethics, I have
> to believe that you are having a bout of confusion.
>
> Based upon what I read on that form, found at:
> http://www.colonialrottclub.org/app.pdf, Page 2, It is extremely similar
in
> intent as the GSDCA's Code of Ethics, right down to the Breeder being hung
> out to dry with little recourse and all the protections in place for the
> buyer of the dogs.
>
> I think you really need to pay a little closer attention to the fact that
> the membership of the GSDCA is made up with a minority of breeders.
> Anymore, a large number of members are people who either do not breed,
never
> did breed or never intend on breeding German Shepherd Dogs.
>
> I believe the GSDCA should have a MEMBERS Code of Ethics as a mandatory
> membership requirement which only deals with the following sample wording:
>
> As a MEMBER I resolve to abide by the By-Laws and standards as set down by
> the G.S.D.C.A. Inc. and always conduct myself in a manner that will be
> beneficial to the G.S.D.C.A. Inc., the Breed, and its image. I also agree
> to abide by Rules and Regulations as set down by the AKC (or my country's
> breed registry body), and agree to uphold the AKC Code of Sportsmanship.
>
> As a BREEDER I resolve to devote my efforts to the improvement of the
Breed
> by maintaining high standards of temperament and physical soundness in my
> breeding stock and insisting that the stud dogs I use for breeding
purposes
> are of the same high standard.
>
> As an INDIVIDUAL with a special interest in the Breed, I resolve to
maintain
> personal contact with all animals under my care and insure that they are
> kept properly and parasite free, to share my knowledge with other members,
> and to support the G.S.D.C.A. Inc. in all its endeavors.
>
> Failure to abide by these Codes of Ethics can result in disciplinary
action
> as described by Article VII of the GSDCA Bylaws and expulsion from
> membership in the GSDCA.
>
> *************************************
>
> Any member who would not sign a code of ethics like that shouldn't be a
> member of the club. Its simplicity is what makes it valuable; providing a
> penalty clause in it gives it some teeth.
>
> People who want to sign the Breeders Code of Ethics they can do that as
> well; but what this club needs is a Membership code of ethics -- something
> simple that makes the member aware that they are responsible for their
> actions -- and will also keep people who can't live up to these basic
> statements out of the membership by either by their refusal to sign these
> codes, or by their expulsion should Article VII be invoked.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kathaleen
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of anthony amoroso
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:51 PM
> To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sign only if you must
>
> I am in a dejavue time warp. All the naysayers have sure come out in
force.
> I'm truly back in the sixties.
> At least in the sixties they did take time to read a legitimate Code of
> Ethics before they laughed me out of the room.
> Why can't you naysayers at least read the code of ethics in question. Then
> take it apart, discuss it, argue about it, tear it up and then laugh me
out
> of the room. But discussions on hypothetical codes don't cut it with me. I
> think most of you would like the code in question and would want to have
> something like it for our club.
> Lets have the courage to present it in total to our membership. If a
> majority doesn't accept it I will go gracefully into the sunset and never
> darken your door steps again with this subject. I promise.
> Respectfully,
>
> Tony Amoroso
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ELG440@xxxxxxx<mailto:ELG440@xxxxxxx>
> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:35 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Sign only if you must
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/4/2007 8:12:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> I could tell you I wouldn't sign it.
>
>
> If given a choice of sign or not join the GSDCA, I probably would not
> join
> the club. Then, if I agreed with the code, I would sign it, and remain
out
> of
> the club. There is a point where you have to stand for what you believe
> and
> not allow others to dictate to you what standards you must accept.
>
> We do accept laws, but not ethics. That is personal choice, and should
not
>
> be up to another to force on anyone.
>
> But, that is just my opinion, and I would never force it on anyone else
or
>
> insist that they sign a document agreeing with me.
>
> Evan
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