He was doing the job he was trained to do. A hero dog is a dog who, by instinct does a heroic deed. Like the dog that was found in the desert by a group of people who,later, just happened to be the people lost in a blizzard on the mountain. The dog, on his own, went from one to the other keeping them warm until they were rescued. That would be a hero dog. Very deserving. I believe the award is for a GSD. A Shiloh is not a GSD. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <grnram415@xxxxxxx> To: <CheradonGSD@xxxxxxx>; <dir@xxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shiloh Shelpherds Cheryl, Is Tina Barber the breeder of this particular dog. Do you know for a fact the handler of Gandalf feels the same way about GSD's as Tina? Do you personally know his handler? I have met Shiloh owners, even in competition, who have no issue with us GSD people or our dogs. We even set up next to each other at shows. Don't particularly care for the temperament of some of these dogs, but the people are ok. Can't say the same for some other herding type breed people. I have been to Tina's website. I have also been to some GSD websites that spew the same crap. So, if the owner of a pup from a breeder on one of THOSE GSD websites, who hates the GSDCA, has a dog who qualifies as a Hero Dog, do we deny that dog because of the beliefs of the breeder? Puleeeze!!!! Sending a letter of recognition, in no way takes anything away from our Breed. In fact, maybe it sends the message that we are not the elitist snobs people think we are. Because we can recognize the good deeds of another breed, even one that doesn't agree with our standards. And, I bring up the same question, if your child/husband/parent was missing/lost, are you going to say no to the SAR dog just because you don't agree with that Breed's origin or politics? I sure hope not. I, personally have a real issue with hybrid dogs, like Labradoodles. But, if one came to find my missing loved one, you can bet I would not doubt this dog. And, I would tell you and everyone else about the results. And, I would do anything to honor the dog that found him/her. Having an open mind about this is not a bad thing. Can't change people's beliefs but hope you think about what you would do in a similar, real life situation. Respectfully, Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: CheradonGSD@xxxxxxx To: dir@xxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 9:09 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shiloh Shelpherds You all still dont understand. Tina Barber is the "breed warden" for the Shiloh shepherds. She is the "dictator for the whole breed. SHE HATES US. SHE HATES THE GSDCA. SHE HATES THE AMERICAN GSD. why dont you check out her website??? check this out and you will see what I am talking about. _The Shiloh Shepherd Story: Against the Wind-A Breed Is Born_ (http://www.shilohshepherdstory.com/) And many/most of her people feel the same. Cheri In a message dated 3/24/2007 11:35:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, dir@xxxxxxxxxx writes: I AM CERTAINLY ON YOUR SIDE SALLY. Good grief--give the dog a special award and give the GSD the HERO award. How hard is this--OK--now it is not in the R and R. Can't we just do something nice off the cuff once? Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shiloh Shelpherds > > I understand by the requirements of the award it must only go to a akc > German Shepherd- no problem > But I am truly ashamed that sending a certificate to honor a dog that > saved a child has become a my breed is better then your breed routine- > and > if we say well done it might promote the other breed.Of All the things we > have discussed and argued about on this list -this is the most petty > I sure hope if any one of you is ever in need of rescuing you don't > refuse > help because the dog is a Shiloh shepherd and not a German Shepherd > > > Sally > www.embroiderybysally.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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