In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:06:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx writes: What I would like to see is a stricter temperament test at the National, BOB class included, and to either require all breed judges to do it correctly or do away with it. I would like to see it done consistantly. Maybe at the judge's seminar at the national, have ONE way to do the approach and teach the judges the correct way. Make the test uniform. I have seen judges stalk dogs and other judges reach way out there to tap them on top of the head. I watched a judge at a futurity go numerous times up to one dog that bucked like a wild bronco on approach, finally was able to barely tap his head and then placed the dog in a large class. I watched another judge stand way back then rush at the dog and bent far forward to touch his head. That judge had several dogs jerk their heads back on him. When the public at ringside sees this, what kind of message are we giving them ? The GSD is the only breed at all breed shows given the temperament test. Personally,I feel that just makes everyone suspect that there is a problem. I've heard many ask why the judge did that. We need one, thats for darned sure. But we need one that is uniform. Denise Groenewald SE Regional Representative for the GSDCA Responsible Animal Legislation Education Effort Federation _www.greenwoodshepherds.com_ (http://www.greenwoodshepherds.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================