In a message dated 7/12/2006 8:06:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx writes: What I would like to see is a stricter temperament test at the National, BOB class included, and to either require all breed judges to do it correctly or do away with it. What's the point of doing a temperament test, if you are going to ignore the results at the time of awarding ribbons/points??? It is done WAY WRONG most of the times at the all breed. And at some specialties too. While I am wishing away, I think all judges applying to the breed must undergo a Temperament Test Training. Maybe some of the "top dogs" wouldn't be so on top......<G> I would vote for a full on TC mandatory for all Specials to be given by our top evaluator, the day before the show. Separate for sake of taking ring time. But must pass, before going into Specials. Or heck, while I am daydreaming about "things that will never happen" a full- on TC in front of the crowd.....for the last group of Specials...you don't pass, you get the gait and NO Select. I would pay CASH to see such a challenge put forth for the "best" in our breed. Kathy Victory....There's Something in a Name WEBSITE UPDATED: June 18, 2006 _Victory German Shepherds_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/index.htm) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================