Listers- Now lets start a discussion on my favorite section of the Standard. The final sentence in this section takes the whole Standard and condenses it into plain language that anyone should be able to understand. "The ideal dog is a working animal with an incorruptible character combined with body and gait suitable for the arduous work which constitutes its primary purpose". This is the last sentence on the section on "Character". Powerful words which describe a good German Shepherd Dog. In discussing points in the section, I find the greatest variances is in evaluating correct temperament. I see a number of judges who do the "loose lead temperament evaluation"(LLTE) as recommended by the GSDCA and if the animal passes then they are through with that part of judging the dog. Read the part of the section on Character that begins with, "the dog must not be timid, shrinking behind its master or handler: it should not be nervous, looking about or upward with anxious expression of showing nervous reactions, such as tucking of tail, to strange noises or sights. Lack of confidence under any surroundings is not typical of good character. Any of the above deficiencies in character, which indicate shyness must be penalized as very serious faults, and any dog exhibiting pronounced indications of these must be excused from the ring". So in my mind, passing the LLTE is only a part of determining correct character. How many very nervous dogs that passes the LLTE and almost s**t in the ring when someone makes a loud noise and flys around the ring as if someone is after them but still wins the class/points. More than I want to count. This characteristic and similar ones as described above are to be "penalized as very serious faults". What do you think? Should temperament evaluation stop with the "Loose Lead Temperament Evaluation"? I hope not! D.D. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================