I agree with Fred..sort of..a dog that fights the teeth exam or sits on a testicle exam isn't necessarily a spook. I have seen young dogs fight teeth exams..however..again I suppose it is to what degree. If he jumps up on his hind legs..expresses his anal glands..and looks like he wants to head for the hills..that may be more than just fighting the exam.Speaking of heading for the hills..I also detest a dog that runs from his owner. If I am doubling a dog..and he slips the handlers lead and he takes off looking for any open van door, he is finished. To me a dog that runs from his owner or fails to come when he is called by his owner is disloyal and lacks good character because he cares more about getting the Hell out of Dodge..than obeying and wanting to be with his owner. As far as I am concerned, he can just keep on running! C.Grainger > [Original Message] > From: <EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx> > To: <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 7/12/2006 7:02:04 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: STANDARD-Saved best for last!!!!! > > > In a message dated 7/12/2006 7:04:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, > cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Should temperament > evaluation stop with the "Loose Lead Temperament Evaluation"? I hope not! > D.D. > > > > I have been doing a loose lead temp. test from 1966 I copied Ernies test. > For the most part if a dog passes my test that part of the judging is done. > UNLESS the dog starts doing stupid things that lead me to believe his/her > passing was a fluke. This has not happend to me that I can remember in 40 years of > judging that's not to say it won't yet happen. What has happened is I have > had dogs pass the temp. test and then want to fight me to the death on the > teeth exam. If I win the fight I do not hold that against the dog just the > owner<G>. . On the other hand if I lose the fight I then must excuse the dog. If I > were a dog I would hate the teeth and testical exam. Under most judges. > Fred Migliore > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================