That's great for your club. We tried for lots of years, hung on and hung on. Believe me, it was a decision NOT made lightly. So I'm happy it worked for your club, it just did not work for ours. Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rumors To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx Cc: "DaList" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 11:33 PM Gee -- when our board made the opposite decision (hold obedience trials regardless) we started making money and supporting the conformation events with proceeds from all of our trials - now we hold obedience, rally, multiple agility, and periodic herding trials - all with strong support from the all-breed exhibitors and all responsible for a healthy club. Along the way we have added more GSD performance members as they like the way our trials run. Ruth ________________________________ From: Chris S. Kimerer <tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx> To: sally hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 1:41:15 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rumors Hi Sally This is how I look at it, I'm probably totally wrong but here goes. The board IS the governing body, yes, they should listen to the memberships wishes, but the same is in government and politics, we elect officials that SHOULD vote/write laws etc as the wish of the people, and it does not always happen. Do I agree or like it, NO. BUT, I don't always have all the facts. I serve on our local GSD clubs board, and I'm sure our little board has made some decisions that the membership (at least not all of them) have agreed or liked. But there have been reasons to do or vote a certain way due to different circumstances etc. A big example is last year we voted as a board to drop Obedience from our Specialty Show. Many in the membership did not like it or agreed with our decision. The reason we did was purely financial. We could not justify the loss of profit our conformation show made to pay for the obedience judges for 4-6 dogs that would enter. That was NOT an easy decision and cussed and discussed for several years. When we finally did do it, there were several members that were truly upset. Some actually exhibit, some do not. I was one of the ones that voted for dropping obedience. Did I NOT listen to the members that still wanted to offer it at our June show? I DID listen, but as a board member, there are multiple factors to be considered when voting on things. The only reason I'm writing this is to help put things in perspective. I sure don't have the answers either, I'm just trying to be fair to the board and perhaps I'm naive enough to believe that they have the best interest of the club at heart! Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA --- On Thu, 2/3/11, sally hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: sally hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rumors To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 9:28 PM Interesting concept Chris -but why do the people have to prove anything? The membership voted on a rotation it is in the By-laws- or P and P I don't remember which. A contract was signed- The BOD may think they have a good reason to change the national site but do they have the right to go against the voice of the membership who voted for a specific rotation with out the approval of the membership - Just asking On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Chris S. Kimerer <tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I totally agree and hope that as many members as possible will write the board members. I do think they listen to voices of reason, we just have to prove reason to them. Chris ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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