[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Response to the President Gail Hardcastle

  • From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ELG440@xxxxxxx, freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:57:14 -0800 (PST)

Hey Evan, after reading your post, have you been listening to Obama or 
what?...lol...FB
ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote:  
In a message dated 1/5/08 10:27:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
hardcastle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
the bylaws are specific. They do NOT say that the Corr Sec shall 
promptly notify the president and post to all available lists for 
discussion.
There are many things not said in the by-laws, and if left out then you turn 
to the laws of a non-profit corporation in the state of New York. There are 
provisions for 'closed meetings" but only to the public. No meetings should 
ever be closed to the members. This has been ignored and is the basis for 
thinking information can be kept from the members. It cannot. If you tried to 
put that in the by-laws, it would be in conflict with corporation law, and 
even federal IRS limitations. While it has been going on for a long time, our 
new President, Gail is just the person to start to correct the past mistakes 
and bring the club out of the closet and let everyone know what is going on, 
all the time.


We are here to protect ALL members and treat each fairly. We were elected, 
as you state, to conduct business on behalf of the club. We do not intend to 
act as a higher power. Our job is to follow the by-laws and to keep our club 
free from trouble.
This board is a collection of sincere and concerned individuals without 
agendas. We will do what is right and unless our bylaws are changed we 
follow the outline of "Section 2. Charges".


I agree with everything Gail has said. But, nothing in our by-laws allows 
the board to keep things to themselves, and there is nothing that allows the 
board to work on a different level, or degree of knowledge of what is going on. 
Article VII Section 2 makes it clear what the procedure is to bring charges, 
and what the President and Board must do about them. No matter how often or 
carefully you read them, you will not find anywhere that the business of our 
club is secret or to be kept from the membership. That is not included 
because our by-laws are copied from the AKC sample by-laws, and even the AKC 
recognise New York corporate law, and IRS regulations that a 501 Corporation 
must 
allow the members to be included in all club business. What may be 
instructive is when it states, '"The Board of Directors may also recommend to 
the 
membership...." That seems to make it clear, that the membership has the right 
to know what is going on.

A few years back, when I was on the board, a member sued this club. Not only 
was the information kept secret from the members, but because I was and 
remain a friend of the person suing, it was kept from me, even though I was an 
elected board member. As such, I was unable to advise the board, or be involved 
in the club's decisions on that issue. That was wrong, and even today, this 
club and the members have no idea what the conclusion of that litigation 
was. This should not have happened, and the continued decisions to exclude the 
membership should not be encouraged. I did not fight the decision at the 
time, as it would have been divisive to the club, and my duty as a board member 
was to act in the best interest of the club, the members and the breed.

I have faith in this board, and our new leadership. The changes will not 
come overnight, but we have a duty to continue to exert our opinions and point 
out that the past has been wrong, and the future should bring corrections. It 
is not going to be easy to change what has been going on for years now, but 
our new board has the quality of membership and the strength of leadership to 
do it.


For years, our country didn't allow blacks to learn to read, women to vote 
or drive, or limit the work imposed on children. We allowed separate but 
equal schools, allowed American citizens to be owned by other people, allowed 
workers to work unlimited hours, and forced our citizens to go to war, no 
matter 
what they believed in their faith. That was all changed with courage, 
perseverance, hard work and energy, and except for allowing women to drive, has 
all strengthened our great nation. 

The GSDCA sits today on the chance to change for the better many of the past 
actions that damaged our club. Never have I seen a better group of elected 
board members or a better President to do so. Let's give them the chance, 
remind them of their duties and obligations, and continue to support them in 
the difficult task ahead. They enter the year with great challenges, and past 
mistakes. They are up to the task, and we could not have chosen better 
individuals to do so.

I am very optimistic about this club, and support our board in every way I 
can.




Evan Ginsburg
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