[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Response to the President, Gail Hardcastle.

  • From: T O'Brien <t.m.obrien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:39:02 -0800

A simpler way of saying what I was saying is that:

Small irritants/conflicts etc are essentially personal problems.  If not 
resolved on a personal level and they continue then....

They become social problems--meaning a social group-an organization-a 
court has to solve them!

The personal problems during the last year plus-minus could have been 
handled personally--they were not--now they are or will be handled by 
larger systems as court systems, etc.

Tom


T O'Brien wrote:
> Dave and others:
>
> I agree that issues/problems/etc. should be resolved when they first 
> become irritants.  The problem occurs when these are not shared.  
> Keeping "secrets" is one way these irritants are not shared.  
> Unfortunately it is easy to be upset with someone and not tell them 
> directly.  Also unfortunately it is also easy to tell our friends "do 
> you know what he/she did?"  "I will tell you, if you don't tell 
> anyone."  etc...   Secrets are shared even if we don't tell people they 
> are secrets.
>
> When organizations don't promote open communication, then secrecy lies 
> dormant and becomes part of the culture.  Then we can say "we have 
> always done it this way and it is the best way to do it."
>
> The challenge for our new President and Board of Directors, in my 
> opinion, is to overcome the culture the prior Officers and Directors 
> established.  I am not saying anything negative about former officers or 
> directors as I  believe, with Evan, that they have done what they 
> thought was best for the club.  But this culture thing is big and it has 
> built into it the unconscious tendency to repeat the past.
>
> Santayana was right "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to 
> repeat it."
>
> If conflicts are not resolved before they become legal matters, then 
> they represent open conflict and must be dealt with openly.  
> Otherwise!!!  I don't know the current issues/conflicts/problems [and 
> don't even care to know them] but from what I do know, they are open 
> problems and thus should be handled discretely and "openly."
>
>
> Maybe there is still a little bit of Rodney King still in our social 
> institutions.
>
> Tom
>
>
> David Fritsche wrote:
>   
>>   
>>     
>>> Common sense and simple conflict resolution speak to handling 
>>> allegations  openly and in keeping  with ones charter. Who really 
>>> wants to be "charged" with wrong doing through gossip and innuendo? 
>>> Not me!!
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>>> tom
>>>     
>>>       
>> I agree Tom, except that the better way to handle conflict is to handle 
>> it personally - that is, if I am offended, the best course is to go to 
>> the one offending and work it out with them, one on one. If we were to 
>> all do this we would cut down the rumors and conflict by 90% or more 
>> (just my guess)! And, if the offense was not mine in the first place, 
>> then I probably should not 'borrow it.' It might however, be more 
>> difficult on the legal profession, so maybe it is not a good idea! <G>
>>
>> Sometimes the more public it gets the more entrenched the parties 
>> become. It is then a matter of right and wrong rather than a difference 
>> to be understood and accomodated. I agree we should have open 
>> information, but sometimes I wonder if we shouldn't resolve stuff before 
>> it needs action and public disclosure, you know, before papers are 
>> filed. But then, that is the perception of one who has worked long and 
>> hard to keep conflict from become a legal matter. Others benefit more 
>> from the filing, and then all of my theories tend to no longer work.
>>
>> Gosh, I am sounding more and more like Rodney King! Not my favorite 
>> hero!
>> Dave
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