This issue comes up more often then not. Not sure about shepherds but I do see the occasional judge fault it in dals. Probably because it is easy to find and an excuse when the judge can't figure something else. And many judges don't understand fronts and have to worry about that so they can't about the dog's rear legs showing as them come at them (thought it is incorrect in almost all breeds).. Finally, it's the kind of excuse I expect from judges who don't know much or are fault judges. Jess M.Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:18:13 -0400> From: vicisheps@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] REF: going away vs coming at you> > I thought I'd start another line of interest as far as movement goes...> > When doing down & backs, why are dogs that are a little wide going away( I mean just for a step or two) are penalized for this fault more then dogs that are wide (very wide is some cases) when coming back to the judge the whole distance? > Is there a difference of importance on going away vs coming at you and if so what is it? > --> Michelle> veni, vedi, "ViciSheps"> home of RBIF CH Vici's Wind Walker, OFA'd> Am & Can CH Vici's Abilene V ShadowValley _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================