This is an interesting post. Think as a judge and ask yourself which one of these mentioned dogs is closer to the standard? Where is the point in evaluating a dog that you ignore a serious fault? Example: A beautiful dog standing with a very masculine head, good coat, good pigment, good back, etc, but is awful going away. Doesn`t this one glaring fault eliminate him from winning the points or BOB? He is functionally unable to do what he was intended to do. He would breakdown herding sheep, be unable to jump a wall, etc. So, in my opinion, it is difficult to brand someone a fault judge if you haven`t "walked in his/her shoes." D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANN SCHULTZ" <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gsdramey@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: REF: going away vs coming at you > That is a fault judge. They don't look at outstanding > attributes of the dogs in the ring, but the dog with > nothing outstanding and no glaring faults. > Example-Balanced can mean nothing at either end. Ann > --- Norma Ramey <gsdramey@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi, I need some help here -- What is meant by - >> "The worst kind of judge is the one that gives the >> win to the dog with the least faults" ???? >> As Ann mentions below -- >> I always thought the opposite - >> The worst kind of judge is the one that gives the >> win to the dog with the most faults ???? >> I'm totally lost. >> Norma no L >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ANN SCHULTZ" <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <vicisheps@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >> <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:52 PM >> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: REF: going away vs coming >> at you >> >> I think most good judges look at the whole dog. The >> worst kind of judge is the one that gives the win to >> the dog with the least faults, yet when you look at >> the winning dog, it also have no outstanding >> attributes. Our breed was bred on greatness, not >> mediocrity. Ann >> --- >> >> >> > ============================================================================ >> POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the >> property of the original author and of GSD >> Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of >> any kind are permitted without prior permission of >> the original author AND of the Showgsd-l >> Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. >> >> ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, >> REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL >> WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS >> PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST >> MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A >> VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL >> BE PROSECUTED. >> >> For assistance, please contact the List Management >> at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org >> > ============================================================================ >> > > > Ann > Home of Sel Ex # 6 Ch Maxwell, Sel Ex Ch Gilley and #1 Dam Muggles - > owner/breeder of 66 champions and 19 ROMs > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================