Per a comment by Evan L. Ginsburg: I don't think that the reproducing ability should be a factor in judging a GSD. I agree with Mort and Jack. I actually had not made up my mind on this, but now believe they are right. I think I will disagree here based on this part of the standard; The dog must have two testicles. Why does the standard require testicles? Reproduction? That then leads to "how does a judge know a dog cannot reproduce?" On that day they do not. So it is the handler, owner and breeders to make that call when showing a sterile dog and or bitch. It does push the envelope and we all know it. And as our pool of conformation GSD owners and breeders shrink because of such antics, wipe the smile off your faces and kiss the good times goodbye, because you are causing the demise of conformation GSD showing. Same thing as popping pills at ringside and oh yea dying the dog/bitch before you go into the ring. Cheating is cheating and no one should be rewarded for such behavior. No matter who or what you did or think you are doing for the beloved breed! Terra Fairburn ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================