Again, I am confused. Is there something in the standard for the GSD that says we are to evaluate it for breeding stock? I just read it again, and maybe my copy is missing something. I don't think that the reproducing ability should be a factor in judging a GSD. I agree with Mort and Jack. I actually had not made up my mind on this, but now believe they are right. You just judge the dog on the day you judge them. I remember one judge saying she remembered the dog had spooked in the past and penalized him for it at her show. I will just judge what I see, against the standard, and leave the rest to people smarter than me. That is just about everyone. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 9/27/12 11:17:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Because, dear Evan, RACING is not the same as evaluating breeding stock as a judge does. Racing rewards speed, whether the race be won by a stallion, gelding, mare or neutered mare. The conformation of the animal or its ability to possibly reproduce, doesn't enter into it. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================