In a message dated 9/27/12 1:43:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx writes: in conformation only one dog or bitch wins so its more competitive and therefore harder to get and more thrilling but then i am very competitive. I was thinking the other day about championships vs. grand championships. It seems to me that to win a championship it takes a quality dog, and good judges. To get a grand champion it takes more so, a number of shows. At many all-breeds there are only a couple of champions, and so you often get the grand champion points due to being there. So it is more quantity than quality. The reason I see it that way is we continued to show Kirk, because Summer was showing Ruby, and we took Kirk along. He won a lot of BOBs and at the shows where he didn't he got grand champion points. He never missed one or the other. When we got Ruby's Championship certificate, at the same time we got Kirk's grand championship certificate. I hadn't even thought about the grand champion title. I like it, since it will get some champions off the couch. But, it does seem to me to be a quantity, not a quality award. Evan L. Ginsburg ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================