Joan you response is exactly why I agreed with the BOD on allowing a DQ conformation faults to win the highest award at the National in non conformation events....conformation DOES NOT enter into it.......Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ELG440@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:17:12 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Questions as to Purpose of dog shows Because, dear Evan, RACING is not the same as evaluating breeding stock as a judge does.  Racing rewards speed, whether the race be won by a stallion, gelding, mare or neutered mare.  The conformation of the animal or its ability to possibly reproduce, doesn't enter into it. Penny in NC The Farm Dog -----Original Message----- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:38 PM To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Questions as to Purpose of dog shows I keep thinking of why they race geldings? Evan L.  Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German  Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type  Movement and Temperament come  together In a message dated 9/27/12 9:36:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: I have  always felt it a place to showcase and evaluate BREEDING "stock", starting with the fall country fairs of old where people, dependant for their  very being on their "stock" gathered and evaluated. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5293 - Release Date: 09/26/12 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================