I will second that.? The photographers were very friendly and accomadating.? All of the pictures we took were beautiful. The only thing I would say is that taking photos should not hold up judging for the next class.? If 6-9 males are taking photos, then 6-9 bitches can be in the ring.? If any of the 6-9 male handler's are needed in the ring, they could be to the end until the handler gets there.? That is the only complaint I have about this year's National.? Way too much downtime.? Someone needs to make sure things start on-time everyday and someone needs to?keep things moving.??I am not blaming anyone, only stating that we need to learn from this and correct it.? For the entry not being as large as previous years, there is no reason that we should have been there until the evening several days.??? Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> To: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 9:50 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National photos I would like to add that Sarah did a really nice job taking the shots. I didn't see one that wasn't a nice photo of the dog.? It takes time to do good job!? The only way you get to see the GV and the GVX as soon as they are selected is to attend the national. I think that is the way it should be. If we make everything so available from the desk chair who is going to go support the national? ? Good job Sarah. Terry --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National photos To: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 6:16 AM I think marking the images with "show results" or in this case "2008 National" is very appropriate. The club is not buying these and way too many people just grab images off the PC website instead of purchasing them from the photographer. It costs a lot of money to be the photog at an event - travel, time, equipment, etc. and if people want photos, they need to support the photog. In this time of instant everything, nobody wants to wait while photos are sorted, color balanced, cropped as needed - not to mention the time required for uploading and all the rest. For an event like this you are talking about several thousand photos and a photographer who was busy all day taking them. Assuming she also wanted to eat and sleep during the show, it means not being able to go through them all at the show. Remember how long it took last year? Don't judge someone untill you have walked in their moccasins. This is one of the hardest events to photograph as there is always a rush. If you do not take the winner's photo right after the class, people do not come back to get it. If you do, evryone involved is in a hurry to get it done as there is another class to run. I am sure everyone knows how well dogs relate to stress and when you take the up and down of emotion from competition to pictures to stress of getting ready for next class, it is a challenge to make everyone look good. Good photography is teamwork - dog, handler, doubler, others in photo, and photog. Everyone needs to be right on for that perfect photo. Not only do we want perfect win photos, but we also want photos of all the activities - so you need to have someone at the performance events as well as at the conformation ring for gaiting shots. And, oh yes, we also need candids. AND WE WANT THEM NOW! And we complain if everything is not perfectly the way we want it to be - and if not, we always blame the photographer. So give her a chance to get the job done. Ruth ? ----- Original Message ---- From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:36:26 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] National photos Does anyone have any idea when the rest of the National photos will be posted?? There are a few there...all stamped across them like proofs, which is pretty stinky anyway........but here it is a week later and all the class photos aren't up yet... nor are the photos of the GV and GVX.......... Peggy ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008.? All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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