Why are we even talking about nervous , fearful animals being "placed"? Our standard states that they be EXCUSED form the ring. Yes, I'm shouting ! Am I missing something? Has our standard been changed ? Carolyn ________________________________ From: Rbuffdogs . <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> To: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> Cc: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: It is, what it is. Evan I wish it were that easy..Years of experience equating to ability to properly judge temperament in the breed simply isn't the case. Now I know for a fact you are an excellent judge of the breed and a great "dog man" ..no question. But don't assume b/c you have the ability and desire to do a good job in the ring, that other judges can too, simply because they have been around, probably FAR too long. This year alone in three separate instances we watched stunned, as judges (plural) put up puppies to Best Puppy, that cringed, fought, trembled and tucked tails on simple approach, nevermind actually touching them! It wasn't a case of puppy antics, or anything...these were RAGING spooks that you could see from the International Space Station. One was so bad it blew anal glands that the whole gallery could smell from 20 feet away....Gawd. These each were judges with a combined probably 120 years in the breed...so just because they have been judging a long time..doesn' t mean they are getting it right..or maybe they used to but not anymore. Really, it was appalling. And NO we had NO puppies in, so we had no interest personally in anything regarding any of the the puppy classes . Sickening, disgusting displays of either incompetence or lack of give a damn. So we wonder what is wrong with temperaments on some of the dogs we see, when this type of horrendous temperament is rewarded ? I would laugh, but it really isn't funny, not one damn bit. Kathy *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com* *Updated: June 2013* *CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan **Kappo von Eisenwerk* *RBIF Monarch's Tarragon v Kaleef* * * *"Victory...*Vires et honestas" On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > <<<<The only valid temperament test is the one done by the judge with > years of > experience with this great breed, and the knowledge of what a good German > shepherd should be.>>>>> > > Evan L. Ginsburg > > > ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================