The time has come for all clubs to think outside of the box. This includes our parent club and the AKC. The economy has changed, our sport has changed. JMO, Cyndi Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:17:46 To: <Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx>; <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] It is what it is In a message dated 2/22/2009 10:06:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx writes: sorry, ileana, but how can we complain about the AKC "running it(self) like a business" (re increasing registrations to increase revenue), and then complain that the some members of the gsdca "forget their mission."? have to agree 110% with evan on this one. the gsdca is NOT a business - it is a social club, made up of members with a common interest; the GSD. the day we forget THAT interest, or mission, we are done. we constantly seek to find ways of increasing the membership. "belonging" to a corporate entity in order to insure profitability is certainly no incentive. the gsdca does not exist to make money ... or lose money. as long as the club has the funds to do what is necessary to fulfill its mission statement, then its ideals may be realized - THAT is its intended "balance". diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds Diane I am not surprised you jump at the opportunity to disagree with me. No big d eal. We can all agree to disagree, but the facts are the facts. I wasn't talking about AKC, I am strictly talking about our club. There is a pattern of always trying to divert attention to other issues and ignoring the issues at hand. We are not here to turn a "profit", as reported before, we are here to make sure OUR club does everything necessary to provide for and protect the breed and the membership. To that end, the part of the club that must generate revenue MUST be run like a business. Even part of everyone's household must be handled carefully. Careless handling of finances have our entire country on a bind right now, and you cant disagree with that. <G> If you think is ok to spend $40,000+ on 3 meetings, that's your deal. I certainly think is too much. And, as I said before, we will have to wait for a Treasurers report to get all the facts. Clubs have (among many others) a social area, an educational area, and a fiscal area. It is what it is, I am not re-inventing the wheel, I just want it to turn smoothly. While we enjoy the social aspect of this organization,and I certainly do, as an incorporated entity, we are recognized as a business. As long as money changes hands, it is considered a "business". Did you pay to join? I think we all did. Social clubs I belong to have no need to be incorporated, and collect no dues. We can get an education from the house lawyers on definitions. But the bottom line, and the entire thread idea, is that we have to make SOME money to run this club, and THAT part of our club MUST be run like a business. Or we can put donation containers at the local pet shops. See how far that will take us. Now, if you feel like continuing this discussion in private, you know how to reach me. Ileana **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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