[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: It is, what it is.

  • From: Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx" <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:45:06 -0700

I love that plan!
Terry

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On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Mike & Sheila Metz <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

> If I could wave a magic wand I would require a temperament test prior to 
> any dog stepping in to the national ring, and I want to be the weird 
> stranger(I think I have that down patt) and the evaluator is voted on 
> like the rest of our judges
> ;-)
> 
> M
> 
> 
> On 9/4/2013 7:02 PM, Rbuffdogs . wrote:
>> Mike,
>> An authentic , honest Sch1,2, or 3 certainly does
>> make your odds of having a dog with good temperament,
>> (not just" trained temperament"), much more likely.
>> Obviously there are no
>> guarantees in life, in regards to living things.  Watch any Sieger 
>> Show, you will
>> also see a few dogs that run out during the Schutzdienst, when 
>> pressure is applied.
>> That is a sad sight, indeed, but  a necessary test to determine TRUE 
>> courage, and obedience (in the "out)
>> You also I am sure aware that Schutzhund titles can be easily 
>> purchased by  the unscruplous
>> usually from the European Union Countries and the mid east for around 
>> 1500 to 1800 Euros
>> each.  It is no secret to anyone, that I know.  I have seen V rated, 
>> SchH titled dogs so -called that patently refused
>> to hit a sleeve, or much of anything for that matter.  Super 
>> disappointing, when dogs are advertised as V rated
>> and in real life..are just...not.
>> Fraud, and dishonesty can be rampant in competition, whether
>> dogs, horses , etc.   But at least when you HONESTLY work to title a 
>> dog in only for example,
>> SchH, or any title that requires COURAGE,  you are hopefully NOT going 
>> to start off with a spook to do so.
>> So right again Mike on the bogus titles as they pertain to character 
>> and temperament.
>> I have seen Champions and Selects even Multiple Select titles,  that 
>> you couldn't catch with a butterfly net eventhough their
>> only test of "courage" is to get through our LLTT.   So
>> you are right Mike, title doesn't guarantee temperament, wish it 
>> could.   Then I wouldn't have
>> to feel sick when I see so and so Champion Fido , stand quaking in a 
>> Specials class next time..lol
>> Kathy
>> 
>> *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com 
>> <http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/>*
>> *Updated: June 2013*
>> *CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs
>> CH. Victory's Leviathan
>> **Kappo von Eisenwerk*
>> *RBIF Monarch's Tarragon v Kaleef*
>> *
>> *
>> */"Victory.../*Vires et honestas"
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Mike & Sheila Metz 
>> <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Had a bitch years ago that came along with the breeder who was
>>    bringing
>>    another girl for one of our boys, the girl had terrible
>>    temperament and
>>    had SchIII.
>>    A degree, is not a guarantee that they are sound.
>> 
>>    I need to know they are sound
>> 
>>    M
> 
> 
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