Throw in selling pizza by the slice to help support all breed events and they are happy to donate to the cause. Terry ________________________________ From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: myjoygs@xxxxxxx; caggra@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:43:11 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I think/ NOT! Yes to AB OB and yes to AB Rally. Show-and-goes put on before the show (say a month out) at the same location are a big hit too. You can charge $8-$9 an entry and many people will run a dog 2-3 times...PURE profit! Then you promote your show, the folks have had a nice practice at the location WIN-WIN. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 3/1/2011 1:34:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, myjoygs@xxxxxxx writes: I might add to this that I believe the reason we made a substantial profit was because we did the entries ourselves and didn't use RAU While we are on the subject of clubs surviving or not.... the obedience that we have with our speciality show is not faring well, we are not making money, nor are we making money with obedience training. Clubs that do have obedience, do you make money, is it open to all breeds. Do you have obedience and rally. -----Original Message----- From: Caggra@xxxxxxx <caggra@xxxxxxx> To: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>; marhaven <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; fairway97045 <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 12:29 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I think/ NOT! Our club hosted the Great Lakes Futurity last year and we made a very nice rofit. I do not have the specific numbers in front of me, but it was ubstancial. In fact we bid on hosting a Futurity as often as we can because hat money keeps our club going. Without hosting a futurity every few years, I m not sure where we would be. I do not believe we have ever lost money on a uturity. **Granted, I know we are in an ideal location (central Ohio) and this may not pply to all clubs..... Jeff Pyle indfall ----Original Message----- rom: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx o: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 12:04 pm ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I think/ NOT! o...we're having a Futurity this year....actually our money maker is all eed Agility. I'm not looking at financials right this minute, but I uld guess all breed rally & OB show & goes combined w/ CGCs, microchip inics etc., come in next...followed by specialties COMBINED w/ all breed lly d OB.... f you are VERY careful, you can make a few $$$ on the F/M...maybe, and ybe the entries will get a boost...especially if judges are mpatible.....maybe....but clubs have lost money too... thy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC lebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions sit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ ; (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) a message dated 3/1/2011 11:52:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: H that would be GREAT! Then those of us that DO double entries and tually enter e Futurities and support them could drive even FURTHER to show our pups?? TWO or THREE day drive would be better some how? cal Clubs are typically OPTING to host Futurities to increase their show tries.....and you ink we should take that option away and just give it to 'specific' clubs certain areas? y not actually support the Futurities .....and Clubs and the breeders at support them! support the breed we have to support our Local Clubs. ce they stop ....or cannot 'put on' Shows or Trials and turities.....they FOLD! ould you support herding Trials if they made them farther ay................?? arolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx w.Marhaven.com ---- Original Message ----- om: Terry Cochran To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 11 7:19 AMSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] I think t is time to reduce the number of regions to reflect the number of eeders owing in the Fut. Mat system. What would be wrong with west, central, st gions?. Let the folks that compete in them find the most accessible tes. Let em pick the judges. Let those who want to donate to the system do so. t ose of us who want to donate to rescues or regional clubs do that. I n't eed any more so the Futurity system doesn't really mean anything to me. do nate pictures and time and money to local clubs. To me the Regional ubs are e backbone of the breed not the National and not the Futurities. It is e gional clubs that meet the public and promote the breed to the public. you ve strong regional clubs you will have a strong Parent Club. Without the gional clubs what is the Parent club Parenting? rry ========================================================================== ST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the iginal author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of y kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of e Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ach Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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