Grand Championship points are calculated using the same AKC Point Schedule as is used for Championship points. (Dogs entered in non-regular classes are not counted in the computation of Championship or Grand Championship points.) Champions of Record including champions that are non-regular class winners (i.e. Veterans Class Winners) or dogs that have been "moved up" to Best of Breed competition for the show are the only dogs eligible for Grand Championship points. Although Winners Dog or Winners Bitch can win Best of Breed or Best of Opposite Sex, in no case will they be eligible for Grand Champion competition. Grand Championship points may be awarded to eligible dogs as follows: Best of Breed ? All dogs of both sexes in the breed or variety exhibited in the regular classes and Best of Breed competition will be counted Best of Opposite Sex to Best of Breed ? All dogs of the same sex in the breed or variety exhibited in the regular classes and Best of Breed competition will be counted Select Dog or Select Bitch ? The total number of dogs of the same sex in the breed/variety defeated in the regular classes and BOB competition will be counted. (i.e. 2 dogs less than the total number of the same sex) Completion of the title requires all of the following: Twenty five Grand Championship points Three "majors" (three or more points earned at a single show) won under three different judges At least one or more of these points won under a fourth judge Must have defeated at least one other AKC Champion of Record at three shows THIS IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE AKC WEBSITE........ It is not your concern if Veterans are CH's. or not......AKC will decide on eligibility. If they win the class and are in BOB.....award the points and let AKC worry about it. You cannot ask the Ring Steward for any info about the entries, except for age. -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds -bedkar@xxxxx -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com > From: v_harrington@xxxxxxxx > To: caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How I plan to do it/GR CH > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:34:22 -0500 > > Cyndi -- > > > > I believe GrCh points can only be awarded to those dogs entered in Best of > Breed competition - not those who have advanced to Best of Breed due to an > award (WD, WB, or Best Veteran). Guess we all need to go back and read the > AKC's instructions; but I believe it is limited to champions of record > entered in (or moved up to) Best of Breed. Veterans is a non-regular class > and points cannot be awarded from a non-regular class. > > Valerie Harrington > Home of "Jack" - > BIS Ch. Faithrock Caralon Sloop John B, TC, OFA h/e > www.valerieharrington.com > > > > > > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:26:13 +0000 > > From: caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx > > To: ELG440@xxxxxxx > > CC: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How I plan to do it/GR CH > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ELG440@xxxxxxx > > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:33:07 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] How I plan to do it > > > > > > <At that point I will ask the ring steward which of those dogs are > > Champions > > as of the day of the judging? > > > ************************************************************************************** > > > > > > This was what I am trying to sort out. When I sent my question to the list, > > one judge emailed back that it was not appropriate to ask if a dog was a > > CH, that the only thing the judge could ask was the age or > > birrthdate......Another judge says to ask the steward if the dog is a > > CH...... > > > > So what is the correct protocol to follow? > > > > > > > > Cyndi Flautt > > > > www.carettigsd.com > > > > ===========================================================================> > > POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the > > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS > > of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author > > AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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