Ken, I agree with your first two sentences but not with the first part of your third... " BOB and BOS automatically get the Select points and then one additional dog and bitch "can" be awarded." I believe it has already been established that IF the WB or WD is selected as BOB or BOS,....they do not receive the GRAND CH points because they are not champions...therefore BOB/BOS is not automatically awarded GRAND CH points. Pauline Pauline Moon - _www.ropajagsd.com_ (http://www.ropajagsd.com/) Ropaja German Shepherds:Member-GSDCAmercia & GSDCAtlanta - Best In Show AKC JAM/AOE/ BISS CH Ropaja's Chateau Beaujolais OFA HIC; BISS AKC CH Ropaja's Chateau Beaulieu OFA HIC; Our future: AKC BISS & GRP W CH. Ropaja's Je Suis Fleur De Lis; AKC PTD Ropaja's Je Suis Gabrielle. In a message dated 5/31/2010 7:28:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Msg: #9 in digest Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 16:27:11 -0700 Subject: Re: How I plan to do it/GR CH From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> The AKC does not want any interaction between Judge and Ring Steward regarding whether a dog is a CH or not. The judge is to award the GC Selects and if the dog is not eligible the AKC will sort it out. BOB and BOS automatically get the Select points and then one additional dog and bitch "can" be awarded. WD and WB are not eligible. Ken On 5/27/10, caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ELG440@xxxxxxx > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:33:07 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] How I plan to do it > > > <At that point I will ask the ring steward which of those dogs are > Champions > as of the day of the judging? > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================