[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: German/American crosses

  • From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: Jeff Pyle <windfallgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:48:34 +0000 (UTC)

Jeff...you know what my deal is.....everyday I try to make some one laugh or 
break up a happy marriage.......it's how I roll....FB 
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From: "Jeff Pyle" <windfallgsd@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Cc: shereemosesgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:43:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: German/American crosses 

LOL. Just when I am about to sign off the List (too busy and too much time 
wasted on reading emails), I read an "Ed" post that makes me laugh just enough 
to stay connected... 

Jeff Pyle 
Windfall 

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:35 PM, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: 

> I have repeated my Army son to a Teejay daughter twice....and I still have a 
> bitch from the first litter...these dogs are very typey, black/red. .strong 
> drive,excellent temperaments ....not enough shoulder to win in the specialty 
> ring, but they look better than most of the other show dogs I've owned...but 
> then again that's a pretty low bar....FB 
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> From: "Sheree Moses" <shereemosesgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> To: "Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:33:19 PM 
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] German/American crosses 
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> We have had good luck with German/American crosses, I think it depends on 
> what you're working with. 
> Can Sel US/Can Ch Pastor Burgos is a beautiful dog of excellent character, 
> sired by a Kirschental dog out of one of Frank Tate's bitches, and he has 
> also proven to be a good sire.  He is the father of our dog Dante, as well 
> as the young bitch who was Best Puppy in KC this summer. 
> We have a young male out of Bronson and a Liedo daughter (Liedo was a German 
> import who was an AKC champion but was also 3X Sieger in this country) who is 
> very handsome and we expect him to finish.  We also showed a bitch a few 
> years ago, finished her in almost straight shows at the all-breeds, who was 
> sired by GV Honky Tonk Man out of a mostly Wienerau bitch......bred to 
> Bronson, she produced a bitch who won a large puppy class at the Canadian 
> Nationals, won 6-9 under Vicky Roye at the US National weekend, had several 
> specialty Best Puppy awards and I finished her myself at the all-breeds. 
> Kent Boyles has had many good German/American crosses; just last year he was 
> showing a lovely bitch called Sapphire who is sired by one of his imports out 
> of an American show bitch. 
> Karin Wagner has also had good success with the breedings she did w/Jim 
> Fiemereck, as did Dan and Marilyn Smith. 
> Helen Gleason has certainly had some beautiful animals who are of "mixed" 
> descent. 
> I'm sure there are many others out there, these are what came immediately to 
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> I think it is very possible to do, just remembering that we may not be as 
> aware of some of the faults/issues in the pedigrees of imported dogs....and 
> that these breedings are complete outcrosses and may not give you what you 
> want, or at least not in the first generation.  But breeding shouldn't be 
> about instant gratification, but more about a long term plan for breeding the 
> best possible German Shepherd Dog. 
> I have had the best success w/these crosses when the other animal was more 
> closely line-bred.  JMHO, Sheree 
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