In a message dated 9/2/2013 5:39:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: These are German Shepherds, they are a working, thinking breed. You need to work their brains, give them jobs that cause this, if not they will find their own job and sometimes that outcome is not pretty. Sometimes these GSDs are better off in a pet home, there they are part of the family I do not see it the same. The dogs in Germany are seldom house dogs . They are kept in a kennel and as both standards call for, they are to be aloof. We want dogs that will adapt to all conditions, including becoming house dogs. That does not mean they can't do the work,but often are more human oriented that dog oriented. It is a different use of our breed, not better or worse. Certainly not "softer". I just spent some time with Koby, and I would never be able to get near the van. But, when Ann brought him to me, he remembered me and we reunited out friendship. I think Ann was being nice to me because I put up her dogs. Or maybe not. That is what I want in my German shepherd, not matter what country he comes from. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================