We have had good luck with German/American crosses, I think it depends on what you're working with. Can Sel US/Can Ch Pastor Burgos is a beautiful dog of excellent character, sired by a Kirschental dog out of one of Frank Tate's bitches, and he has also proven to be a good sire. He is the father of our dog Dante, as well as the young bitch who was Best Puppy in KC this summer. We have a young male out of Bronson and a Liedo daughter (Liedo was a German import who was an AKC champion but was also 3X Sieger in this country) who is very handsome and we expect him to finish. We also showed a bitch a few years ago, finished her in almost straight shows at the all-breeds, who was sired by GV Honky Tonk Man out of a mostly Wienerau bitch......bred to Bronson, she produced a bitch who won a large puppy class at the Canadian Nationals, won 6-9 under Vicky Roye at the US National weekend, had several specialty Best Puppy awards and I finished her myself at the all-breeds. Kent Boyles has had many good German/American crosses; just last year he was showing a lovely bitch called Sapphire who is sired by one of his imports out of an American show bitch. Karin Wagner has also had good success with the breedings she did w/Jim Fiemereck, as did Dan and Marilyn Smith. Helen Gleason has certainly had some beautiful animals who are of "mixed" descent. I'm sure there are many others out there, these are what came immediately to mind. I think it is very possible to do, just remembering that we may not be as aware of some of the faults/issues in the pedigrees of imported dogs....and that these breedings are complete outcrosses and may not give you what you want, or at least not in the first generation. But breeding shouldn't be about instant gratification, but more about a long term plan for breeding the best possible German Shepherd Dog. I have had the best success w/these crosses when the other animal was more closely line-bred. JMHO, Sheree ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================