[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDCA Membership?
- From: TISHW@xxxxxxx
- To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:07:40 EDT
Dean Wylie is the Regional Clubs Chair.
In a message dated 6/9/2011 5:02:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi Kathy
I think you missed my point. :) She does not have to do that, she
started doing that earlier this year sometime. Our club does look at the
memberships in the Review, but it is nice that Laura does this and being the
membership chair for our Reg'l Club, it helps me not overlook anyone.
My point is that right now, that is the only communication the PC does
with it's Reg'l Club's. I think in order to help better the club, their needs
to be better communication. A lot of Reg'l Clubs are struggling for
different reasons but the bottom line is, there is no support system and even
though many will express regret etc, there is no one representing the Reg'l
Clubs on the PC level. That is why I think maybe a laiason that has
several Reg'l Clubs that reports to one specific board member (since there are
19, that should spread the #'s enough to where it is not so overwhelming)
would be a good start.
Anyway, I feel for all the Reg'l Clubs that are trying to survive, as well
as the PC that is trying to survive, I don't have the answers either.
Chris
Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer
www.tanbarkgsd.com
Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E
Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist
AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E
Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E
Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA
--- On Thu, 6/9/11, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDCA Membership?
To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 8:36 PM
Why does Laura have to e-mail anybody? I mean that's nice if she does and
all, but the new PC applications/members are listed in the Review. What's
wrong with taking a look and if anyone resides in a particular regional
club's area, someone from that club (corresponding secretary???) sending them
an invite to meeting or a show?
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
In a message dated 6/9/2011 4:01:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes:
HI Carolyn
You are correct, the PC can not force club membership, but they can get
more involved with the Regional Clubs. Currently, the only direct lines of
communication that I am personally aware of right now is from the Parent
Club office, Laura Gilbert, emailing the membership chair when a person has
joined the PC that resides in the state/vacinity of the Regional Club. I
have been an officer and board member of our Regional Club for years now and
just feel there could be more communication than just corresponding when
sending in our club membership dues or asking for Bronze Medals for the Best
of Breed Trophy.
This is not an attack on the PC, this is merely stating a fact. Perhaps
since there are 19 board members, each can be assigned Reg'l Club contacts
to open up some lines of communication, just an idea.
Chris
Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer
www.tanbarkgsd.com
Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E
Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist
AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E
Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E
Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA
--- On Thu, 6/9/11, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDCA Membership?
To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx
Cc: "The List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 7:09 PM
I see another Club possibly folding.....and I honestly do not know what
the Parent Club can
do about this problem. They cannot 'force' interest in a local Club!?
They cannot force
membership and they cannot force educational meetings and training
classes?? Particularly
when no one wants to belong to an Organization unless it does "something"
for them even
on a local lever.
I do believe if we need something specific from our Board or Parent Club
we should contact
them and ask.........and see what the reaction is before we blame them for
our own problems
or dissatisfaction.
On the other hand......I will never understand why a dog Club needs 19
Board members when
we can often not even pull an entry of 19 at a DOG SHOW!!?? An easy
expense to solve!!
<G>
One specific thing I have mentioned before that I believe the Parent Club
CAN do that may not
help us.....but may better help us to understand problems and be able to
help with ideas or input
when we cry out for a National in our own areas.
I would LOVE to see the Treasurer's Report have a specific report on ALL
expenses and income
for our National......ALL.......from sheep to sod to seating. A
complete separate report....of
every little detail.
I think if we want to see more Ads in the Review and more dogs and
Articles.....we have to run the
Ads and submit the articles and show the dogs. <G> Until Ads are more
reasonable......the Ads
just won't happen from most of us........$450 for one page.......$450 for
a show weekend to try to
finish a dog...........HMMMMMmmmmmmm .........<G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris S. Kimerer To: ELG440@xxxxxxx Cc: The List Sent: Thursday,
June 09, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSDCA Membership?
Evan points out some very valid points that I have to agree with.
For a board that intended to be more inclusive to the membership,
unfortunately, on the large scale, has not happened. Somewhat dissapointing,
especially with the quality board members that are on the board now.
I do understand having to save money, every company and business is doing
that, from multi million
corporations to the small business in Smallville USA. So I get the
conference call aspects, certainly a good
quick way to get timely issues addressed.
What would be fantastic to see is the board addressing the Regional Club
issues and involving the Regional Clubs more.
But, for right now, I do feel the same as Evan, my membership supports the
American German Shepherd Dog and the much talked about Futurity System.
Good or bad, I don't want to see it go away, so if my $8/month helps keep
that alive, so be it.
Hopefully the future of the GSDCA and the American German Shepherd Dog
will look brighter soon!
Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com
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-In a message dated 6/8/11 9:34:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
k9krazz@xxxxxxxxx writes:
I let my GSDCA membership expire, because I really don't know how the
membership benefited
me other than receiving the monthly magazine, but, I decided to re-join.
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I am glad to see Mike return, but he points out two problems. The first
being if the
membership application isn't on the parent club cite, it should be.
More so, I noticed his comment about how "the membership benefited me". I
have had that thought often, and my response is that I belong because I
think my membership benefits the breed. I don't get a lot from our parent
club any more. I no longer care much about awards, I sure didn't enjoy
sitting 8 hours at a board meeting with no chance to give any imput. I now
see
now board meetings are to be held by conference call or internet with no
ability for the club members to even watch. We no longer can vote at the
annual meeting, and while some times there are comments, it sure doesn't
feel
like anyone listens.
I find it too expensive to show at the national, and the Review is getting
smaller and smaller with no articles to learn from. The magazine is still
quality, but the content sucks. I read the Review in one short session,
and mostly look for my own dogs.
So, it is not what I get from my membership, but rather what I give. I
help
support the club that protects our standard, contributes to research to
protect our breed, provides a central organization to receive information
and
complaints about the future of our breed, and represents the German
shepherd in the United States and throughout the world as the voice of the
American German shepherd. I do so because of my love of the breed, and my
desire
to help establish the German shepherd as a premier dog in the world. In
America, it is the GSDCA that allows me to do that.
That is enough for me to send in $8.00 a month or so, and I will not wait
for the club to do anything for me.
Maybe I have too strong a memory of JFK, but to me, I am a member of the
GSDCA because I believe in it.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Evan Ginsburg
Asgard German Shepherds
http://www.asgardgsd.com/
Where Type Movement and Temperament come together
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