I know probably everyone on this list is very aware of the goofiness of the conclusions the gentleman in the article came to, but I have to share my own experience with my dogs having "problem-solving skills". My Ch Ivan (may he rest in peace) was a tennis ball nut. He was a terrific retriever too. My Boss grandson Raji happened to grab Ivan's tennis ball one day when we were out playing in the yard. Ivan, being the gentleman he was, wasn't going to attack Raj to get the ball back. He looked back and forth between me and Raj a few times, then ran over to me and started loving on me...licking me and waggling and circling and all over being goofy...so of course I gave him what he wanted, petting and ruffing his fur and having fun. The whole time this is going on, Ivan kept glancing at Raji. Raji finally couldn't stand it any more and dropped the tennis ball and came running over to get his share of the loves from mom too. The second he left the ball, Ivan pounced on it and then trotted off, head and tail up like "HAHA you fell for it!". You can't tell me he didn't figure that Raji would decide that loves from mom were worth more than a tennis ball. Not only that, he planned and took actions to further the plan, getting me to hand out the lovin'. So...this guy who thinks dogs don't do anything they haven't been trained to do...is apparently blind and deaf. Ivan was the smartest dog I ever raised, until I bred Solo. Solo's mom was Kela (double Egoiste granddaughter) that I co-own with Patti in Phoenix. I bred her to Jim and Edie Hall's German dog Sammy vom Drachenberg and Solo was the result. Solo is SCARY smart. Liz in Utah > My little sister sent me an article from a newspaper in Eugene, OR > concerning an interview with a retiring K-9 officer. He is quoted as > saying, > "Dogs "have no loyalty," they don't really bond with humans," Frost > explains, saying that "we tend to anthropomorphize our relationship with > them. Instead, dogs respond to whoever feeds them and takes care of them. > To > a dog, the entire world is a pack, or a sub-group of a pack, and they > respond accordingly." > He further said, "Dog's can't think; they don't have problem-solving > skills. > They don't do anything they haven't been trained to do or haven't seen > before." > > If anyone is interested, my response is attached...... > > Dave > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================