[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dogs DO NOT bond!
- From: "karekedi" <karekedi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:33:37 -0700
I had a German exchange student a few years back that worked with a
schutzhund club in Germany . She claimed that dogs have no sense of self
awareness . She returned to Germany and I didn't bother to stay in touch .
I think that she and this jerk that wrote the article, are just some of
those people you often run across in the world . I like to call them
androids . Just an artificial intelligence without feeling or caring for
anyone other than themselves. They don't have the capacity to understand the
love of a dog.
Connie
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From: "Liz" <RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dogs DO NOT bond!
>I know probably everyone on this list is very aware of the goofiness of the
> conclusions the gentleman in the article came to, but I have to share my
> own
> experience with my dogs having "problem-solving skills".
>
> My Ch Ivan (may he rest in peace) was a tennis ball nut. He was a
> terrific
> retriever too. My Boss grandson Raji happened to grab Ivan's tennis ball
> one day when we were out playing in the yard. Ivan, being the gentleman
> he
> was, wasn't going to attack Raj to get the ball back. He looked back and
> forth between me and Raj a few times, then ran over to me and started
> loving
> on me...licking me and waggling and circling and all over being goofy...so
> of course I gave him what he wanted, petting and ruffing his fur and
> having
> fun. The whole time this is going on, Ivan kept glancing at Raji. Raji
> finally couldn't stand it any more and dropped the tennis ball and came
> running over to get his share of the loves from mom too. The second he
> left
> the ball, Ivan pounced on it and then trotted off, head and tail up like
> "HAHA you fell for it!".
>
> You can't tell me he didn't figure that Raji would decide that loves from
> mom were worth more than a tennis ball. Not only that, he planned and
> took
> actions to further the plan, getting me to hand out the lovin'.
>
> So...this guy who thinks dogs don't do anything they haven't been trained
> to
> do...is apparently blind and deaf.
>
> Ivan was the smartest dog I ever raised, until I bred Solo. Solo's mom was
> Kela (double Egoiste granddaughter) that I co-own with Patti in Phoenix.
> I
> bred her to Jim and Edie Hall's German dog Sammy vom Drachenberg and Solo
> was the result. Solo is SCARY smart.
>
> Liz in Utah
>
>
>
>> My little sister sent me an article from a newspaper in Eugene, OR
>> concerning an interview with a retiring K-9 officer. He is quoted as
>> saying,
>> "Dogs "have no loyalty," they don't really bond with humans," Frost
>> explains, saying that "we tend to anthropomorphize our relationship with
>> them. Instead, dogs respond to whoever feeds them and takes care of them.
>> To
>> a dog, the entire world is a pack, or a sub-group of a pack, and they
>> respond accordingly."
>> He further said, "Dog's can't think; they don't have problem-solving
>> skills.
>> They don't do anything they haven't been trained to do or haven't seen
>> before."
>>
>> If anyone is interested, my response is attached......
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
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