> > On Feb 18, 2010, at 13:43, Marvin wrote: > > > Zone system photographers understand the limitations of the system, the idea > > > is generally to translate as much of the textural scene viewed in the > > > camera, to information(range of greys) in the print. > > > > Actually the point is that you can be creative in how a print is rendered > whether it is showing more information or less. > Dennis I think its deeply fulfilling to have a good grasp of what your textural range is so you know when you point your camera at something which areas are going to have detail which are probably printable in the shot and which areas are not. Thresholds. Thresholds of detail or texture. Sometimes roman numerals help some seem to feel like they need to live without them. Not sure if they is going to be perceived as going against what Dennis and Marvin are saying here or not. I think its possible we're all basically agreeing. But semantics vary. [Rabs] Mark William Rabiner I like to be able to count to four (steps) from my shadow textural threshold to my highlight textural threshold. Which for me is from III to VII. If its more than four I worry. And yes this is more Arnolds zone system than Ansel's. --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list