Of course health care. Marvin. From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Purdy Sent: 11 March 2010 11:23 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT Artistic Voices (was Re: OT Mapplethorpe) How can a person be opposed to public funding of art. What other than the military should be publicly funded? On Mar 10, 2010, at 19:15, Frank Deutschmann wrote: Elias, who are you to say which things are art, versus which don't contribute to the good, and which are vices? I saw some art recently that involved a dollar bill acceptor bolted to a gallery wall; also a cube that continually posted itself for sale on eBay. Crazy as it may seem, I see the art in these artifacts - alas, the same defect lets me see the art in the whole list I presented. And yet, I am strongly opposed to public funding of the arts, in all the various underhanded way that mission is carried out. My wife and I spend/contribute more than $10k per year on arts in NYC, particularly at Lincoln Center. And yet, still I am strongly opposed to public funding of those institutions. I see several Met operas per season, and frequently record the live broadcasts - so do I think it is wrong that Texaco dropped their funding? NO! Texaco should fund whatever programs they feel gives their shareholders their best return! This year, that's probably funding some absurd green-anti-carbon mission, but that too shall pass.... My objection is not about the amount that the funding contributes to the national debt/deficit, either; rather it's the slippery slope, the furthering of this entitlement cancer that has metatasized in the US, the furthering of harm in the name of public good, the antithesis of every principle this country was founded on. But wait, oh yes, it IS about the debt/deficit: that entitlement cancer is the ENTIRE cause of the staggering national debt! (And I ask, after all that massive spending on entitlements, what did we really get for our money? Was that a good trade?) If the arts can't survive without public support, then propping them up with mandatory funding is not all that different than propping up some nation's unpopular ruler. Or 'saving' wildlife from extinction by capturing it and putting it in a zoo or a museum. Piling on band-aid after band-aid will not stop the bleeding from a severed artery! If you want to save the arts, ask what went wrong with the public culture! School program teaching classical music can't stand on it's own? Ask what's wrong with the education program that the school is delivering; fix that, and the classics will be sought out. The school will be sought after, as well. And maybe, just maybe, the community will see some semblance of personal responsibility return, and the culture of entitlement will be banished to far away shores. Well, we can all dream that someday we will find a cure for cancer; perhaps we need more public funding for that.... -f