[rollei_list] Re: Kodak Discontinuing All B&W Paper
- From: John Browning <j_browning@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:21:18 -0700
I think I've read that Kodak had some of the best selling digital
consumer cameras over Christmas, in the US. As to overall
profitability, I'm under the impression that Kodak is finding the woods
getting darker not lighter. I don't have any real knowledge of Nikon
except that it seems to expand, year after year, in the areas where
it's active. Where has Kodak consistently expanded? With large
companies, like Nikon, there is a difficulty understanding what part
any niche plays in the total picture, a problem that also makes reading
Canon accurately difficult. Canon has also, of course, expanded
continuously. Nevertheless, the visibility of Nikon and Canon's
persistent expansion may admittedly hide a low level of profitability
and these companies efforts are financed by other operations, or
socialized via Japan's legal-business structure which puts high costs
on the consumer rather than business. Nevertheless, the visibility and
prominence of the expansion certainly gives the impression of success.
John
On Jun 16, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Dan Kalish wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that most, if
> not
> all, companies that sell digital cameras are losing money on them.
>
> And I sure hope Nikon doesn't drop its film camera line in favor of
> digital.
>
> Dan
>
>
>> From: John Browning <j_browning@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Kodak Discontinuing All B&W Paper
>> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:14:40 -0700
>>
>> This company has show continued loss of focus. Its vacillated for
>> years between film and digital. Only in the last year or so has it
>> had
>> appreciable success commercially with digital. Its focus on film has
>> been diminishing for more than 10-20 years. This has been a company
>> without a successful plan.
>>
>> It may find a niche somewhere in the future. But the niche it created
>> has largely been abandoned -- i.e. film dependent photography. I
>> know
>> it has a high-end focus on digital and some degree of low-end consumer
>> acceptance. But I think it's missed the upscale "bourgeois" market in
>> digital which is occupied by Canon, Nikon, and Sony.
>>
>> John Browning
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Todd Belcher wrote:
>>
>>> Really? What do you base that on?
>>>
>>> todd
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15-Jun-05, at 2:36 PM, John Browning wrote:
>>>
>>>> The reality is that for a company like Kodak there is no profitable
>>>> niche...anywhere.
>>>> John Browning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 15, 2005, at 2:21 PM, TrueBadger@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 6/15/2005 10:48:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> DFStein@xxxxxxx writes:
>>>>>> Hope not but I would have concentrated on manufacturing and
>>>>>> MARKETING
>>>>>> WELL
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> premier paper for the high end niche. Wonder what John Sexton's
>>>>>> reaction
>>>>>> will be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Reality is that for a firm the size of Kodak. there is no money in
>>>>> "high end
>>>>> niches" of any sort whatsoever. There never has been.
>>>>>
>>>>> G. King
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
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