I actually work for Kodak - which has bought the company I used to work for. More than ever, Kodak is concentrating on 'niche' markets - digital ones. todd On 15-Jun-05, at 3:07 PM, Don Williams wrote: > At 02:34 PM 6/15/2005, Eric wrote: >> This accompanies a similar thread on that "other" rollei list >> alluding to >> a rangefinder camera that would have succeeded IF ONLY it had been >> marketed well... The meaning/ role of marketing at different >> companies is >> just completely different, and pointing a finger at" marketing" as the >> ubiquitous failure is typically ill-informed, simplictic, and usually >> just >> out-and-out wrong. >> >> Eric Goldstein > The fact of the matter is that, with respect to consumer products, > Kodak > didn't have to do any real marketing from the very beginning. They did > keep their bright yellow ads in front of everyone but that was it. > > On the industrial side of things, Microfiche handlers, storage > systems, and > Computer output microfilm (COM) systems, they did indeed do > old-fashioned > marketing. > > Consumer sales were simply a matter of letting it happen. One thing I > thought very strange is that the employee discount in the company > store was > only 10-20%, not as high as the discounts on the open market. > > Countering that was their excellent employee benefits packages, > however. > > I'm sure things have changed since my last visit there. When I was > last > there Kodak, Ilex, 3M, Xerox, Bausch, and many other companies were in > town > and everyone knew everyone else. > > > > Don Williams > La Jolla, CA > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list