----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Hello (again), new Rollei TLR > Richard, > > I am not surprised at your statement, I am ASTOUNDED! > At one time I compared all my Weston meters, to a Luna > Pro. All the Westons had been checked out by QLM. > They were in agreement after the corrected film speeds > were used (Weston vs. ASA) The Westons ranged from > the pre-Master 650 to the Euromaster II, except for that > POS Master 6 (Japanese made toy) > > Jerry > I discovered this when I was doing a quick comparison of meters and noticed that the exposures given by the Weston seemed low. I did direct comparison of three Weston meters, Two General Electric PR-1 meters, a Luna-Pro (my standard), a Sekonic Studio Standard (a modern version of the Norwood Director). All of the meters read the same. The Weston meters read the same if I set them for _half_ of the equivalent Weston speed, i.e., 40% of the ISO speed. This has to do with the way the calculator is set up not with the method of measuring the speed. I was also surprized because I can't understand why Weston did this. Evidently, they included a safety factor in the film speeds and then removed it in the calculator. The equivalent speeds from the old Kodak material prove this. Kodak speeds are double modern ISO speeds, and the Weston speed should be about 80% of this, but its not. It IS 80% of the original ASA speeds which included a large safety factor of 2.5X. Modern ISO speeds have a 1.25X safety factor. AFAIK, the Kodak speeds had no safety factor but the ASA speeds were 1/4 of them so perhaps they did. There are also exposure charts for these films which indicate the Kodak speeds were indeed about double current ISO speeds. Some may be surprized that film of EI-400 were available in the early and mid 1940's but they were. The difference between these and modern films is in much decreased grain and better resolution, and probably improved latitude. Probably the best reference on Weston meters and the Weston speed measuring method is the original article by W.N.Goodwin: "The Photronic Photographic Exposure Meter" W.N.Goodwin Jr., _Journal of the Society of Motion Picture Engineers_ V.20, p.95 (1933). I have also the patents for the Weston but I don't have a patent number on the speed method or know if it was patented. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list