This is definitely true, but even when these lenses were new, or now when they are spotless/hazeless, they do not have the same level or type of contrast as modern optics. The comparison is easy to see. For instance, I have a Sonnar 38/2.8 on a Contax T2 which just has a ridiculous amount of contrast, so much so that printing the lens is difficult. You will never get that from a pre-war lens... Eric Goldstein On 11/7/07, Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Goldstein" <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:25 AM > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: An Embarrassing Omission by the > List Owner > > > > The context of what low contrast means pre and post war is > > important > > to keep in mind... > > > > Prewar, Sonnars were famous for their "bite" with > > relatively few glass > > to air surfaces but by post-war standards we would not > > view them as > > having good contrast. And yes Ed prewar, all fine lens > > makers apotized > > for resolution and not contrast, because contrast sans > > coatings could > > only be taken so far. This is why the Zeiss paper I > > mentioned in a > > previous post was such a turning point not only for that > > marque but > > most others who followed suite... the day contrast became > > king... > > > > > > Eric Goldstein > > > More, shining a flashlight through a lens will show up > the sort of haze I just wrote about. It may be difficult to > see just by looking through the lens. Even a light coating > will reduce contrast quite a bit, more than it looks like it > could. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list